Thursday, September 27, 2012

lost in space patrick j miron---“For such men are false apostles, facts or opinions

here we go

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Protestant Theology & Catholic Doctrines
Exposed to cover & discover the Naked Truth“... Catholic responses to the Booklet: “Answers to my Catholic Friends” by Thomas F. Heinze …    Part 5b
A Catholic reply to Protestant “[mis]- Understandings” Part 5b
DEVIDED INTO  3 SEPARATE LESSONS

A friendly word of caution to our non-Catholic friends

2Cor.11:13 to 15 “For such men are false apostles,


 [NOTE: There can logically only be One Truth per precise issue. 


What are the odds that the truth didn’t happen for 1, 500 YEARS after the Bible had been written?] deceitful workmen,


 disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 


And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light


So it is not strange if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness

[Perhaps unknowingly] 


 Their end will correspond to their deeds.”

The Bible never infers that that any saints, living or dead, sympathize with us more than God does. …


 This is  a irrelevant observation. 



 Paul speaks directly to and about those he understands


 are doing all that is required to become saints.



 He praises there example and ask others to emulate them. Catholics do not so much prayer to Saints 


 [as THROUGH them to God],


 NOT because they are more sympathetic than God;



 No, we Catholics pray THROUGH them because they STAND IN THE VERY PRESENCE OF GOD, 





and then add to our prayers, there own on our behalf.]

Heb. 12: 1 “Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, [SAINTS in heaven]  let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with perseverance the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus the pioneer and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.”

Tob.12: 15 “I am Raphael, one of the seven holy [Arch] angels [Saints and Angels are considered here to be of similar class] who present the prayers of the saints and enter into the presence of the glory of the Holy One."

 2 Tim. 1: 16-18 Paul Prays for the dead: 16 May the Lord grant mercy to the household of Onesiphorus, for he often refreshed me; he was not ashamed of my chains, but when he arrived in Rome he searched for me eagerly and found me-- may the Lord grant him to find mercy from the Lord on that Day--and you well know all the service he rendered at Ephesus.”

1Mac.12:11 “We therefore remember you constantly on every occasion, both in our feasts and on other appropriate days, at the sacrifices which we offer and in our prayers, as it is right and proper to remember brethren”

Christ Himself tells us to whom we should pray.
Matt.7:7-8 “Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.




Do Protestants Believe in the Saints ? Yes BUT, not the same understanding of the term as Catholics have. 

WHY don’t Protestants pray to saints? …



 Because the bible tells us not too [“because they are idols.”]





“To answer the Catholic argument that “saints do answer prayers” with miracles, 


we must respond that spiritual manifestations 


[including miracles] 

can come from two different places:


 God, or the Devil and his demons.” …




Patrick j miron opinion and commentary delusion


 THIS FRIENDS IS A SPIRITUAL IMPOSSIBILITY. 



JUST AS GOD CANNOT CAUSE EVIL DIRECTLY; 




SATAN IS LIMITED BY GOD IN WHAT HE CAN accomplish IN GOD’S NAME



These same powers and authority granted to the Apostles continue to flow through His one Church in order to fulfill God’s mandate to “teach the whole world”










 Mt. 28:19-20. …John 17: 18-19 “As thou didst send me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. [WITH MY GODLY POWERS AND AUTHORITY] 




And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be consecrated in truth”

We shall begin our Catholic Response; exposing “The NAKED TRUTH”. 


 God and truth are on the side of the only set of Faith beliefs  found in the New Covenant ; for the newly “Chosen People” of His one and only Catholic Church, with  His One and only One, set of faith beliefs.





FACTS: according to patrick j miron opinion

and commentary--- singular---



1. Only Peter and the CC through him have been GRANTED the “keys” [ALL THAT IS NECESSARY for one’s own salvation] by Jesus Himself in personMatt. 16:15-19

2.  The term “church” was first introduced by Jesus Himself in Matt. 16:18 And I [Jesus] tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church,” [SINGULAR]

3. Therefore it is a FACT that every reference to “church and churches” contained in the Bible, must and Do reference ONLY to today’s Catholic Church. The ONLY “church” in the entire world when the bible was completely written.

4. No where in the entire Bible, either explicitly or implicitly did God EVER approve of ANY set of teachings, or ANY “other church or Faith” other than the RCC [and the 23 branches aligned with Her]

5. Therefore what Thomas and protestant denominations seem to have done is violate the very code of the Bible, by denial of God’s actual and real teaching, or simply not understanding them, and proliferate “faiths” designed by mortal men, based on convenience, ease of worship, and ONLY human-logic; who it appears think that they know more; or know better than Jesus Christ Himself. The ONLY set of faith beliefs actually given by God, Inspired by God, Protected by God and warranted by Jesus Himself. Mt. 16:15-19; Mt. 28:16-20; John 14:16-17; John 17:15-19; and John 20:19-22... And in John 15 and 19 Jesus specifically transfers His Power and His Authority to His CC; and never; ever to anyone else can this be said of. “As the Father has sent ME; so to I God send YOU!” “My Catholic] Church“.

6. For more than ONE THOUSAND YEARS the only Christian-“church” that existed was today’s Catholic Church.

7. The NT alone provides more than One HUNDRED proofs of Only One God; Only His One set of beliefs, in and through His only One Catholic Church. And YES, I can provide the list.

John.10: 16 “And I have other sheep, that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice


. So there shall be one flock, one shepherd”

Eph. 4: 1-7 “I therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, beg you to lead a life worthy of the calling to which you have been called, with all lowliness and meekness, with patience, forbearing one another in love, eager to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 




There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of us all, who is above all and through all and in all. But grace was given to each of us according to the measure of Christ's gift.”

Eph. 2:19-20 “So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 



 [SINGULAR] built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone,  in whom the whole structure is joined together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord; [SINGULAR] in whom you also are built into it for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.”

Eph. 3: 9-10  “And to make all men see what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in  God who created all things;  


 that through the church [SINGULAR] the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places.




 This was according to the eternal purpose which he has realized in Christ Jesus our Lord,

So my friends how are we to respond to this level of misunderstandings?  


 There can be and there is only one singular truth.


 God and logic permits only one truth per issue




 With God’s assistance with we shall present it with charity, and clarity, these truths as taught By Christ Himself and allow you to decide who shares the singular truth.  


We’ll tackle this task by topic


so that one can gain a right [fully supported by the Bible],


 understanding of the Catholic Position; which is defacto: GOD”S ONLY POSITION.

DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER - he man, made easy philosophy ---- that teaches that “all that is required for ones “salvation” is to ask God to “be my personal Lord and Savior” may make one all warm and fuzzy inside. But it will not get one to heaven

patrick j miron

Religious judgement  and commentary--with patrick j miron





The man, made easy philosophy ----

that teaches that 


“all that is required for ones “salvation”

 is to ask God to 


“be my personal Lord and Savior”


 may make one all warm and fuzzy inside.



 But it will not get one to heaven


. It will not bring of itself salvation.  
 
 
 



patrick j miron -- commentary


"""Believing that anyone can or will attain participation in Christ Glory without first sharing in Christ Passion and suffering is a naïve, foolish, even nonsensical teachings of mortal men; """






 who themselves claim to know more and or know better that the God Inspired Bible.



 [2nnd. Tim 3:16]

  Protected

 [John 17:15-19] 

 and Guided Catholic Church.


 [John 14:16-17; fulfilled in John 20:21-22]
 
 
 
 
 
 


warning delusion commentary  --

 danger will robenson--- danger 

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- comming from patrick j miron



These verses provide direct evidence of Christ teaching and personal commitment to the catholic Church.










 One can know this based on the fact that when these words were written;



 the only Church and only Christian Faith in the ENTIRE World; 


was today’s Catholic Church and our Faith-belief -teachings.

“Take Up your Cross and Follow Me”

patrick j miron - cool whip-"-Faith alone"---Religious judgement and commentary--with patrick j miron

here we go


Protestant Theology & Catholic Doctrines
Exposed to cover & discover the 


 Naked Truth“... Catholic responses to the Booklet:


 “Answers to my Catholic Friends” by Thomas F. Heinze    part 4

A Catholic reply to Protestant “[mis]- Understandings” Part 4




Here’s a brief Catholic Explanation of God’s own Commanded process of Salvation

Please take note of the fact that I am using the Bible as supporting evidence of the Catholic Position.

 “Bible church Protestants” swear it is the ONLY reliable and solid evidence for learning RIGHT Faith beliefs 



and so we shall use it to support ALL of our Catholic teachings and beliefs. 


 This is not intended as a complete teaching on this subject; rather it’s aim is to  point out major differences in our basic-Faith- beliefs. 



In What Christ taught; the bibles say’s and what Protestant CHOOSE to believe.

It is a completely correct theological understanding that humanity by themselves, cannot “earn” their salvation.

 It is equally true that God, in a mystery only He can understand does require humanity to MERIT sufficient graces to attain our own salvation.  


The FACT that God demands our freewill- co-operation as a condition of our salvation is a mystery only He can unravel. Our freewill correctly used and applied must correspond with specific conditions; conditions that God Himself ordains. 


This  predicated fact is fully supported by the way we are Created to emulate God Himself. We are to cooperate with God’s plan; and God’s grace in able to merit [in the manner 


He specifies] what are the essential elements of our own personal salvation.

Of ALL created things in the Universe;


 only humanity can rationalize and choose to love. In order to do this requires 


the “God-like” attributes of a mind, intellect, and a freewill which are permanently attached to our souls; 



which emulate God Himself because they are Spiritual things, which cannot die or be killed. 


While our bodies die; this Spiritual package of gifs live on for eternity.


 Religious judgement  and commentary--with patrick j miron





The man, made easy philosophy ----

that teaches that 


“all that is required for ones “salvation”

 is to ask God to 


“be my personal Lord and Savior”


 may make one all warm and fuzzy inside.



 But it will not get one to heaven


. It will not bring of itself salvation.  



patrick j miron -- commentary


"""Believing that anyone can or will attain participation in Christ Glory without first sharing in Christ Passion and suffering is a naïve, foolish, even nonsensical teachings of mortal men; """






 who themselves claim to know more and or know better that the God Inspired Bible.



 [2nnd. Tim 3:16]

  Protected

 [John 17:15-19] 

 and Guided Catholic Church.


 [John 14:16-17; fulfilled in John 20:21-22]


warning delusion commentary  --

 danger will robenson--- danger 

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- comming from patrick j miron



These verses provide direct evidence of Christ teaching and personal commitment to the catholic Church.










 One can know this based on the fact that when these words were written;



 the only Church and only Christian Faith in the ENTIRE World; 


was today’s Catholic Church and our Faith-belief -teachings.

“Take Up your Cross and Follow Me”



Phil.2: 8 And being found in human form he humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even death on a cross

 Luke.9 :23 And he said to all, "If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me.


 Mark.8: 34 And he called to him the multitude with his disciples, and said to them, "If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me



. Luke.9: 23 And he said to all, "If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. 


 Luke.14: 7 



 Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me, cannot be my disciple.”

1Pet.5: 1, 9  “So I exhort the elders among you, as a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ as well as a partaker in the glory that is to be revealed. Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experience of suffering is required of your brotherhood throughout the world.”